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    proceedings for a ministerial statement
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    i call it secretary of state for health
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    sergeant javid
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    thank you madam deputy speaker
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    me with permission i’d like to update
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    the house on code 19 but before i begin
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    i want to wish the shadow secretary of
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    state well as he recovers from kobit 19.
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    madam deputy speaker
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    over the past 48 hours a small number of
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    cases of a new variant have been
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    detected on our international genomic
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    database
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    i want to reassure this house that there
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    are no detected cases of this variant in
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    the uk at this time
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    but this new variant is of huge
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    international concern
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    the world health organization has called
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    a special meeting this morning and that
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    meeting is taking place right now
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    i want to update the house on what we
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    know so far
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    why we’re concerned and the action that
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    we are taking
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    although i must stress
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    that this is a fast-moving situation and
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    there remains a high degree of
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    uncertainty
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    the sequence of this variant currently
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    called
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    b11529
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    was first uploaded by hong kong from a
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    case of someone traveling from south
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    africa
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    the uk was the first country to identify
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    the potential threat of this new variant
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    and to alert international partners
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    further cases have been identified in
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    south africa
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    and in botswana and it is highly likely
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    that it is now spread to other countries
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    yesterday the south african government
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    held a press conference where they
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    provided an update on what they know so
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    far
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    i want to put on record my thanks to
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    south africa not only for their rigorous
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    scientific response
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    but the openness and transparency with
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    which they have acted
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    much as we did here in the united
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    kingdom when we first detected what is
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    now known as the alpha variant
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    madam deputy speaker
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    we are concerned that this new variant
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    may pose substantial risk to public
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    health
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    the variant has an unusually large
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    number of mutations
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    yesterday the uk health security agency
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    classified b11529
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    as a new variant under investigation
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    and the variant technical group has
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    designated it as a variant under
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    investigation with very high priority
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    it’s the only variant with this
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    designation making it higher priority
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    than beta
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    it shares many of the features of alpha
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    beta and delta variants
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    early indications show
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    this variant may be more transmissible
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    than the delta variant
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    and current vaccines may be less
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    effective against it
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    it may also impact the effectiveness of
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    one of our major treatments ronaprief
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    madam deputy speaker
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    we’re also worried about the rising
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    cases in countries in southern africa
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    especially as these populations should
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    have significant natural immunity
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    in south africa in particular
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    there has been exponential growth with
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    cases increasing fourfold over the last
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    two weeks
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    in gaoteng province which includes
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    johannesburg and pretoria some eighty
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    percent of cases when tested with a pcr
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    test have shown something that is known
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    as the s gene dropout
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    which we associate with this variant
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    so while we don’t know yet definitively
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    whether the exponential growth in south
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    africa is directly associated with this
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    new variant
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    this pcr test analysis does indicate
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    that there could be many more cases of
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    this new variant than just those that
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    have been sequenced so far
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    so madam deputy speaker
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    even as we continue to learn more about
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    this new variant one of the lessons of
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    this pandemic has been that we must move
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    quickly and at the earliest possible
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    moment
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    the uk remains in a strong position
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    we’ve made tremendous gains as a result
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    of the decisions that we took over the
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    summer and the initial success of our
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    booster program
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    but we’re heading into winter and our
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    booster program is still ongoing so we
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    must act with caution
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    so we’re taking the following steps
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    yesterday i announced that from midday
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    today we’re placing cis countries in
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    southern africa on the travel red list
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    these countries are south africa
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    botswana le cetu eswatini namibia and
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    zimbabwe
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    anyone who is not a uk or irish resident
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    who has been in one of these countries
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    in the last 10 days will be denied entry
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    into england
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    uk and irish residents arriving from
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    these countries from 4 am on sunday will
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    enter hotel quarantine
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    anyone arriving before
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    then before those dates should take pcr
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    tests on day 2 and day 8 even if they
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    are vaccinated and isolate at home
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    along with the rest of their household
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    if you’ve arrived from any of these
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    countries in the last 10 days nhs test
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    and traced will be contacting you and
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    asking you to take pcr tests
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    but please do not wait to be contacted
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    you should take pcr tests
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    right away
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    we’ve been working closely with the
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    devolved administrations on this and
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    they will be aligning their response
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    in recent hours israel has also taken
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    similar precautions
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    madam deputy speaker i wish to stress
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    that we’re working quickly and we’re
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    working with a high degree of
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    uncertainty
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    we are continuing to make assessments
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    including about those countries with
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    strong travel links to south africa
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    and we are working with our
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    international partners including south
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    africa and the european union to ensure
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    an aligned response
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    but this variant is a reminder for all
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    of us that this pandemic is far from
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    over
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    we must continue to act with caution and
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    do all we can to keep this virus at bay
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    including
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    once you are eligible
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    getting your booster shot
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    we’ve already given over 16 million
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    booster shots the booster jab was
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    already important before we knew about
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    this variant but now
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    it could not be more important
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    so please
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    if you are eligible get your booster
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    shot do not delay
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    madam deputy speaker we’ve made great
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    progress against this virus progress
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    that we are determined to hold on to
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    this government will continue to do
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    whatever is necessary to keep us safe
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    and we’ve all got our part to play i
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    commend this statement to the house
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    alex morris
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    thank you madam dr speaker
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    statement and for his kind words about
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    the shadow secretary of state which we
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    would all share on this side of the
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    house too
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    now we have been critical of the
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    government in the past for taking too
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    long to protect our borders from new
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    variants particularly when delta was
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    left to run free so we are glad to see
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    swift action today adding these
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    countries to the red list is the right
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    call and we support it
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    uh i wonder if the secretary of state
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    might explain why it’s these specific
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    countries added and not the wider group
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    where cases of this variant have been
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    detected and whether the addition of
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    further countries is under active
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    consideration over the coming days but
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    that perhaps in the meantime we might at
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    least for countries not on the red list
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    but have cases require pcr tests on
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    arrival rather than lateral flow ones
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    and we have made us the secretary of
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    state says great strides in getting
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    people vaccinated in this country but
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    we’ve always warned that no one will be
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    safe until everyone is safe and it’s
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    regrettable that when we offered plans
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    to the government earlier around global
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    expansion of vaccination those weren’t
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    taken up and today’s news does reflect a
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    failure of the global community to
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    distribute the vaccine with just 5.5
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    percent of people in low-income
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    countries being vaccinated so could the
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    secretary of state tell us about the
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    work he’ll be doing with his
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    counterparts in affected countries to
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    make sure that they have the vaccines
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    and the infrastructure to deliver them
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    and can he give us the assurance that
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    our cuts to aid that we’ve made in this
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    country will not affect affects that and
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    would he would he share with us our
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    regret that we have to destroy 600 000
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    expired doses of the vaccine in august
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    and what we’re making what we’re doing
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    to make sure our stockpiles get to other
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    countries who need them
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    turning to testing modern deputy speaker
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    earlier this month capacity went down
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    significantly with members of the public
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    reporting that their local centers had
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    closed would the secretary of state
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    reassure us that testing still will be
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    an integral part of our approach and can
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    he take this opportunity
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    to refute the rumors that test and trace
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    will be scaled down further
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    this is also a reminder madam deputy
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    speaker we need to go further and faster
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    with vaccination at home children’s
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    vaccination rates remain low the
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    progress on the booster is of course
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    welcome but we know to get there by
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    christmas we need to go even quicker and
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    there are of course huge pockets of the
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    country where significant numbers of
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    people remain unvaccinated 40 of people
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    for example in nottingham 38 in one’s
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    worth 30
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    in bolton and the message that secretary
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    of state had for those people today i
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    think was a very important one
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    because this is a reminder that covert
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    has not gone away so will the secretary
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    of state make commitments to fix sick
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    pay fix sick pay which is still
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    necessary 19 months on and will he go
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    further to ensure that public buildings
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    schools and businesses have the support
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    they need and surely madam deputy
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    speaker we must now revisit cost-free
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    measures such as mask wearing in public
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    spaces
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    madame madden deputy speaker to conclude
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    this is a sobering reminder of the
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    challenges that this pandemic brings and
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    we must meet this moment as we have
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    throughout the last 19 months
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    by pulling together by looking out for
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    each other and in that british spirit of
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    doing what must be done thank you
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    secretary of state
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    well deputies became pleased to respond
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    to the shadow minister his f his first
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    question was around the the countries
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    the six countries uh that we have um
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    decided to put on the red list from
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    midday today
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    we are going by uh primarily about where
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    these new variant has been detected at
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    this point and that’s been confirmed in
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    in two countries in southern africa and
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    that’s south africa and uh botswana uh
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    we’ve included the four other countries
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    that i mentioned earlier uh in in
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    southern africa uh as a precaution uh
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    and uh i think the the shadow minister
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    won’t be surprised to know that we are
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    keeping this under a review and there’s
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    very live discussions going on around
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    whether we should and when we might add
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    further countries and we won’t hesitate
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    to act if we need to do so
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    in terms of the vaccine donations to
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    developing uh countries uh the shadows
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    is absolutely right about the importance
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    of this uh he will know uh that the uk
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    uh has for a country of its size has
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    done far more than any other country in
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    the world already over 30 million
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    donations we’re absolutely committed to
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    our 100 million uh target and we will
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    continue to work bilaterally with
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    countries but also through the kovacs
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    alliance uh to to get out more vaccines
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    to the developing world
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    testing remains a hugely important part
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    of our response to this pandemic it’s
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    playing a a a a
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    incredibly important role and that will
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    continue for as long as is necessary and
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    then lastly on on the vaccinations of
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    course that is the primary force the the
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    primary form of defense uh in our
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    country in in one sense we are fortunate
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    with such a high level of vaccination uh
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    over 80 percent of people over the age
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    of 12 have been double vaccinated 88 at
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    least a single vaccination that’s won
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    the highest in the world but uh we need
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    to go further and we need to go even
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    faster and it is great news that our
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    booster program at over 16 million jobs
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    across the uk is the most successful in
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    europe uh now i believe over 26 percent
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    of the population over the age of uh 12
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    but we would want more and more people
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    to come forward as soon as they’re
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    eligible and i can’t stress the
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    importance of that enough and today as
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    he said at the end of his remarks it is
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    a sober reminder that we are still
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    fighting this pandemic and we can all
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    play a part
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    dr liam fox deputy speaker the viral
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    mutation process of genetic drift
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    depends on the number of times a virus
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    gets to replicate so the wider the
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    spread geographically and the longer
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    that it goes on the more viral
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    replications will occur and the more
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    chances there will be for mutations so
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    there is a need to redouble our efforts
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    to vaccinate populations right across
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    the globe my right honorable friend
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    mentioned the potential increased
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    transmissibility
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    of this virus but there’s another
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    important element which is the severity
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    of the illness produced by a variant
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    what do we know about it so far and the
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    potential therefore for impact on the
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    health service
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    socio states and the please speak as
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    always the analysis that provided by my
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    right honourable friend is absolutely
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    correct in terms of the severity uh of
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    this uh new variant i’m afraid we don’t
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    know enough yet uh the from from what we
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    can tell from a a let’s call it a
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    desktop analysis uh given the number of
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    mutations that have been identified and
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    you double those that were there for the
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    delta variant uh it does indicate uh
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    that there’s a possibility uh
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    that it it might have a different impact
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    on an individual should they get
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    infected but
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    as i said earlier there’s a lot we don’t
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    know about this and we are working with
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    our international partners to find out
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    more
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    rachel maskel
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    thank you madame dr speaker i thank the
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    secretary of state for his statement
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    today and also for emphasizing the
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    importance of vaccination however
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    his statement does make clear that we
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    are seeing new variants and the risks
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    still remain and therefore taking
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    further public health measures is really
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    really important and therefore i ask him
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    again whether or not he can give very
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    clear leadership around ensuring that
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    face coverings social distancing and
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    high hygiene are
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    instituted as well as better ventilation
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    because these measures do make a
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    difference as we’ve seen throughout the
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    last two years
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    the honourable lady makes a good point
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    about the the need uh to to follow
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    guidance and uh the rules that are
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    currently in place uh the the plan a uh
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    policies that we put in place they
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    remain uh the policies i think that that
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    we need at this time but she won’t be
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    surprised to know that we do keep this
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    under review and if we need to go
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    further we will
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    so charles walker
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    honorable gentleman opposite the shadow
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    spokesman for for for her majesty’s
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    opposition mentioned the number of
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    people who are unvaccinated please
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    secretary of state can we bring a nasal
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    vaccine to market stage 2 trials are
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    proving to be really really good and
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    positive with high rates of efficacy if
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    we’ve got to throw the kitchen sink at
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    this i cannot understand why we are not
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    making nasal vaccines available that
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    will increase the uptake of vaccination
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    in this country and across europe
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    it’s actually a state my honorable
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    friend is absolutely right to point to
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    the importance of the the continued
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    imports of the vaccination program and
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    there are some five million people in
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    the uk that haven’t even received a
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    single shot of any type of vaccine he’s
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    right to to talk about the importance of
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    the methods of delivery of a vaccine and
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    as he’s uh mentioned there are trials of
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    nasal vaccines uh but he i’m sure he’ll
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    understand until uh the such vaccines
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    are approved by our independent
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    regulator we would not be able to pursue
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    them
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    thank you madam deputy speaker i’d like
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    to thank the secretary of state and the
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    nhs and everyone who is responsible for
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    the booster program that’s helping to
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    protect us as we enter the winter months
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    but isn’t one of the lessons of the news
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    that he’s announced today
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    that if we don’t
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    tackle the enormous vaccine inequality
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    around the world we’re going to continue
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    to be exposed to new variants of this
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    type
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    in africa for example just 6.6 of the
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    population have been vaccinated now of
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    course it’s every government’s first
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    duty to protect its own people everyone
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    understands that but does the secretary
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    of state agree that the united kingdom
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    and other rich countries in the world
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    must do more to ensure that surplus
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    doses
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    that we don’t need are distributed to
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    countries that do need them
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    rather than not being used and
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    ultimately in some cases being destroyed
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    and deputy speaker i very much agree
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    with uh every word of the uh on awards
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    gentlemen uh especially around the the
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    surplus vaccines and and that is exactly
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    what we have done
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    whenever we have identified vaccines
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    that we may not need uh we have offered
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    them either bilaterally or through the
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    kovacs program and we will absolutely
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    continue to play our role but also very
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    importantly we will continue to urge our
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    international partners to do all they
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    can as well
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    john loud
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    thank you very very much i
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    can commend the government for the speed
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    at which they have taken and this
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    decision i also welcomed the fact that
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    the scottish government is following and
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    so because nepal has been concerned
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    about the lack of consistency across the
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    uk but does the health
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    secretary agree with me but this is a
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    useful reminder that the pandemic is
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    still with us and we all have a
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    responsibility to get vaccinated and
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    that includes getting the booster
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    social statements i mean first uh i can
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    tell my honorable friend that there’s
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    been excellent coordination uh across
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    the uk uh
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    on this and as i mentioned earlier that
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    scotland and all parts of the uk will be
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    aligning themselves with uh what i have
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    announced uh but the importance of the
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    booster program as i say cannot be more
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    important in fact the very latest
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    figures are 28.5
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    of the uk population of the age of 12
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    has been boosted more than by far and
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    away more than any other country in
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    europe i think second only to the united
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    states but it’s still not enough we need
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    everyone to come forward and if there
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    are people
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    out there listening that are thinking
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    what can they do the single most
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    important thing they can do is if they
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    are eligible for booster go and get it
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    in fact go out this weekend and make it
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    your booster weekend
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    meg hilliar thank you madam deputy
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    speaker
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    speaker i appreciate that the secretary
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    of state has come to the house at the
    19:25
    earliest opportunity and his swift
    19:27
    action and i hope this indicates the way
    19:29
    he will engage with us all on this vital
    19:31
    issue i wonder if he’s had any
    19:33
    indication from south africa and the
    19:34
    other south african nations of southern
    19:37
    africa that he mentioned about the
    19:39
    impact of on children of this variant
    19:42
    and whether there are any plans to offer
    19:44
    second doses to children here in the uk
    19:50
    madam deputy speaker it’s a
    19:52
    it’s a very good question for the
    19:53
    honourable lady and then i mean first of
    19:54
    all i have to at this point in time this
    19:56
    has moved so fast we have not had any
    19:58
    indications about the potential impact
    20:01
    of this uh new variant on on children in
    20:04
    particular uh it is something as soon as
    20:06
    we can find out we will want to share uh
    20:09
    in terms of the uk the the child
    20:11
    vaccination program uh it is going well
    20:14
    across the uk it’s been building up a
    20:16
    significant momentum but as for whether
    20:18
    second doses
    20:20
    would be recommended we would await for
    20:22
    the expert advice of the jcvi
    20:26
    suzanne webb
    20:28
    thank you mr speaker i welcome the
    20:30
    swiftness of the government’s response
    20:32
    to this new variant under investigation
    20:35
    can my right honourable friend confirm
    20:36
    that as the situation develops the
    20:38
    government will continue to move at the
    20:40
    earliest possible opportunity
    20:43
    session state yes i can absolutely make
    20:45
    that commitment to my uh honorable
    20:47
    friend and and she will
    20:49
    perhaps know already from the
    20:51
    information the government shared we we
    20:53
    only uh identified the significance of
    20:55
    this variant uh just two or three days
    20:57
    ago and uh we we didn’t hesitate to take
    21:00
    action because as we’ve always said we
    21:02
    will protect our borders when it comes
    21:04
    to this pandemic
    21:06
    lily in greenwood
    21:08
    speaker as the secretary of state has
    21:10
    reiterated getting vaccinated
    21:13
    is vitally important i’m looking forward
    21:14
    to getting my booster jab
    21:16
    tomorrow but he knows that some groups
    21:19
    and some communities are more hesitant
    21:21
    more fearful about being vaccinated and
    21:24
    i’m really conscious both that
    21:25
    vaccination rates in nottingham city are
    21:28
    below those in the wider county and that
    21:31
    our local health services are already
    21:33
    under huge pressure so can the secretary
    21:36
    of state set out what he’s doing to
    21:39
    drive up vaccination rates in areas
    21:42
    where there’s been low take-up and will
    21:44
    he now offer places like nottingham
    21:46
    additional support as we head into
    21:48
    winter
    21:50
    state
    21:51
    madame deaf speaker i want to make sure
    21:53
    all the support that is needed for our
    21:55
    vaccination program is there across uh
    21:58
    england and uh
    22:00
    and she asks the honorable lady quite
    22:01
    rightly what are we doing to reach out
    22:03
    to those that have for whatever reason
    22:05
    so far been a bit hesitant we are
    22:08
    working actively now for months with
    22:10
    many community leaders we have added
    22:12
    many more uh venues and ways to actually
    22:16
    receive the vaccine so improved access
    22:18
    and uh there’s significant work on on
    22:20
    communications and reaching out and
    22:21
    making sure the right messages are there
    22:23
    and also people available including
    22:24
    clinicians to to answer questions and
    22:27
    but she’s absolutely right to point to
    22:29
    the importance of this and i uh i’m
    22:31
    pleased to hear that she’ll be getting
    22:32
    boosted this weekend
    22:35
    mr christopher chu
    22:37
    speaker ivan
    22:38
    has
    22:39
    shown promising results as a potential
    22:41
    treatment for covid19 including in south
    22:44
    africa
    22:45
    over five months ago ivamektin was added
    22:48
    to the oxford university trial called
    22:50
    principle
    22:51
    when will the results of that trial be
    22:53
    available and what is the government
    22:55
    doing to expedite the process because
    22:57
    either mechanic may not be a magic
    22:59
    bullet but it may be
    23:02
    social state friend makes a a very
    23:04
    important point there
    23:06
    the one thing that is different about
    23:07
    dealing with this pandemic today than
    23:09
    even a year ago is that we already do
    23:11
    have more treatments and my honourable
    23:12
    friend mentions
    23:14
    another potential new treatment um i’m
    23:16
    afraid there is no um
    23:18
    exact date that i can share with him but
    23:20
    when we think the trials will be over
    23:22
    but i’m pleased that these trials are
    23:24
    taking place he’s right to point out
    23:27
    the potential of this treatment and but
    23:29
    i i can reassure him that whether it’s
    23:31
    with either mectin or other potential
    23:34
    new treatments uh the uk could not be
    23:36
    more engaged
    23:38
    ruth jones
    23:39
    thank you madam deputy speaker and i
    23:41
    thank the secretary of state for coming
    23:42
    to the house today to give us this
    23:44
    statement so so urgently there were a
    23:46
    number of high-profile sporting events
    23:48
    due to have taken place in south africa
    23:50
    this coming weekend including the united
    23:52
    rugby championship in which cardiff and
    23:54
    the scarlet rugby teams are due to play
    23:56
    so what assistance has been given to
    23:58
    them to get them home ahead of the
    23:59
    midday deadline today and also what
    24:02
    discussions has the secretary of state
    24:04
    had with the devolved administration to
    24:05
    ensure a coordinated orderly
    24:07
    introduction of the new travel
    24:08
    restrictions
    24:11
    secretary of state so the round deposit
    24:13
    first why i understand whether it’s
    24:16
    sports teams or
    24:17
    the thousands of british tourists and
    24:19
    others that are currently find
    24:20
    themselves in south africa botswana or
    24:22
    any of these countries
    24:23
    this this is very difficult news but i
    24:25
    but i hope that many will understand
    24:27
    indeed i’ve had messages today from
    24:29
    people that are in south africa and it’s
    24:31
    made their life a bit more difficult
    24:32
    getting back home but they fully
    24:34
    understand and support the action that
    24:36
    has been taken as for her particular
    24:38
    question around the team and and what um
    24:41
    what can be done to try and get them
    24:42
    back uh before this deadline nothing we
    24:45
    won’t do anything to help them get back
    24:46
    before this deadline because i think
    24:48
    anyone who’s in south africa
    24:50
    the best thing to do is to come back and
    24:52
    you after 4 a.m on sunday and go into
    24:55
    hotel quarantine
    24:58
    mark palsy thank you
    25:00
    speaker may i commend the secretary of
    25:02
    state for the extremely prompt action
    25:04
    that he’s taking to protect our citizens
    25:06
    and while these are very early days the
    25:08
    secretary of state himself has spoken
    25:10
    about the uncertainty and that we don’t
    25:12
    know enough about the new variment
    25:14
    variant does he have any assessment of
    25:16
    how long the measures that he has
    25:18
    introduced has announced might be
    25:20
    necessary
    25:22
    it’s actually a state
    25:23
    it is a good question madam speaker but
    25:25
    i’m afraid that the such is the
    25:27
    uncertainty
    25:28
    around this variant and and and the rate
    25:31
    at which it is um seems to be spreading
    25:33
    i’m afraid
    25:35
    it’s not possible to put a timeline on
    25:37
    this action
    25:39
    guys thomas
    25:40
    speaker if we’re to help reduce the
    25:43
    chance of further variants emerging to
    25:46
    threaten the health of our citizens
    25:48
    we need to clearly accelerate
    25:50
    vaccination programs in other countries
    25:52
    particularly in the commonwealth
    25:54
    so why are ministers so determined to
    25:57
    use the world trade organization
    25:58
    ministerial meeting next week to block
    26:01
    progress towards achieving as south
    26:04
    africa and india want a temporary waiver
    26:06
    of intellectual property rules to help
    26:09
    developing countries develop their own
    26:11
    vaccine manufacturing capacity
    26:14
    so state
    26:16
    the answer to the honorable gentleman is
    26:18
    because a a temporary waiver of
    26:20
    intellectual
    26:21
    property for such purposes it would be a
    26:24
    huge step backwards it won’t help
    26:26
    developing countries it certainly won’t
    26:28
    help
    26:29
    if we do need new vaccines not just for
    26:32
    kobit 19 but for a future pandemic that
    26:35
    the industry and the business might step
    26:37
    back and not bother developing if they
    26:39
    believe that their intellectual property
    26:41
    would always be waived in such
    26:42
    circumstances what is important and i
    26:44
    think the honourable gentleman would
    26:46
    agree on this is that uh the the the
    26:49
    companies that are developing these
    26:51
    life-saving vaccines
    26:53
    have an appropriate pricing and access
    26:55
    policy for each country so if they are
    26:57
    dealing with developing countries that
    26:59
    is priced appropriately in an accessible
    27:01
    way and countries rich countries like
    27:03
    the uk the us and others continue to do
    27:06
    all they can
    27:07
    through international vaccine donation
    27:10
    programs
    27:11
    phillip hollerberg
    27:14
    swift actions taken in relation to this
    27:16
    new
    27:17
    variant and he’s completely right that
    27:19
    the booster program is now more
    27:21
    important than ever but in the kettering
    27:23
    constituency residents in rothwell
    27:25
    desperate burton latimer barton seagrave
    27:28
    and kettering are telling me of the
    27:29
    difficulty they’re experiencing in
    27:31
    getting a booster within the kettering
    27:33
    constituency and they’re being asked to
    27:35
    go to either corby or northampton which
    27:38
    for many people is very difficult so can
    27:40
    we have a boost to the booster program
    27:43
    in kettering with uh immediately local
    27:46
    walk-in booster centers yeah secretary
    27:49
    of state my honorable friend is right to
    27:50
    talk about the the ease of access to the
    27:52
    booster program and of course we want to
    27:54
    make it as easy as possible we are
    27:56
    adding
    27:58
    numerous sites day by day
    28:00
    but on the particular issue around
    28:02
    kettering i i will absolutely see what
    28:04
    we can do the vaccines minister has
    28:06
    heard what my honourable friend has said
    28:08
    and uh if i may if i can suggest they
    28:10
    can have a quick meet after this and and
    28:12
    i’m sure she’s uh really eager to open
    28:14
    up more access points and kettering
    28:17
    karen mccarthy madame deputy speaker i
    28:19
    would echo what the honourable member
    28:21
    for kettering said i got my booster on
    28:24
    18th of december which a few days ago
    28:26
    was the first date that was being
    28:27
    offered near me in bristol but can i ask
    28:30
    there’s a growing divide now between
    28:32
    people who
    28:33
    um will have had three jabs and people
    28:35
    who won’t have been jabbed at all what
    28:37
    more can we do to persuade i know
    28:39
    there’s some hardcore vaccine few snicks
    28:41
    but there’s also quite a lot of people
    28:42
    that think that because they’ve had a
    28:43
    mild dose of covid they’re now immune
    28:47
    and particularly new variants coming on
    28:48
    board we know that they could well be at
    28:50
    risk so what can we do to persuade those
    28:52
    people that have not been jabbed at all
    28:54
    that it’s time to get jabbed
    28:56
    social stage
    28:58
    the honourable ladies is absolutely
    28:59
    right they are they’re
    29:01
    still too many people out there that
    29:03
    that are let’s call vaccine hesitant and
    29:05
    they’re not complete refuse things they
    29:07
    just would want more information and
    29:09
    maybe they’ve read the wrong
    29:10
    type of information and uh and more
    29:13
    needs to be continuously done to reach
    29:15
    out to them so
    29:16
    whether they’re if there are people in
    29:18
    particular communities we are working
    29:19
    with community leaders there’s been a
    29:21
    real change in our comms program trying
    29:23
    to reach out to people in different ways
    29:25
    for example much more use of uh of
    29:27
    social media uh and and also through our
    29:31
    uh general uh comms if the honourable
    29:33
    lady also uh has some
    29:35
    new ideas and she thinks that we can try
    29:37
    we are listening
    29:41
    speaker and can i also welcome the speed
    29:43
    in which the government has acted uh
    29:44
    many caution and wellington residents
    29:46
    have contacted me before to raise
    29:48
    concerns about people rushing to fly to
    29:50
    the uk before added to the red list so
    29:52
    can i write another nothing confirm that
    29:54
    flights from these six countries will be
    29:56
    banned until the quarantine is
    29:57
    introduced on sunday and that this same
    29:59
    policy will apply to any new countries
    30:01
    being added to the red list in the
    30:02
    future
    30:04
    secretary of state yet the uh what i can
    30:06
    tell my old friend that the decision to
    30:08
    to ban the flights uh it’s obviously
    30:11
    it’s a temporary ban is uh to allow us
    30:13
    time to stand up the the quarantine
    30:16
    system the red list system what’s called
    30:18
    the managed quarantine system and once
    30:20
    that system uh starts and we are
    30:22
    comfortable that is functioning as we
    30:24
    would like then
    30:26
    then those
    30:27
    your flights that we would review uh
    30:29
    that decision um
    30:31
    and so if it comes to any other country
    30:33
    we would consider uh banning flights if
    30:35
    for similar reasons as has been
    30:38
    taken here that it’s necessary
    30:41
    greg smith thank you uh madam deputy
    30:44
    speaker my right-hand friend is
    30:45
    absolutely right to be taking these new
    30:47
    variants as seriously as he is but given
    30:50
    the critical importance of avoiding the
    30:53
    damage to children’s education
    30:55
    development and the economic havoc more
    30:57
    lockdowns would bring if the news from
    31:00
    our world-class scientists analyzing our
    31:02
    current vaccines effectiveness against
    31:05
    these new variants is positive
    31:07
    what assessment is my writable friend
    31:10
    made of the ability to stretch the
    31:12
    booster program to bring it down through
    31:14
    the age categories and to get it into
    31:15
    more arms potentially quicker than the
    31:18
    six-month gap
    31:19
    as we head into winter
    31:22
    state the mandeville could mean
    31:23
    regardless of the the the news around
    31:26
    this very the booster program remains
    31:28
    absolutely crucial and in fact if
    31:31
    anything because of this news as i said
    31:33
    earlier it’s even more important and my
    31:36
    honorable friend asks
    31:38
    you
    31:38
    about whether the program may be
    31:40
    extended uh to lower age categories and
    31:43
    as he knows from this monday we extend
    31:44
    it to the age group 40 to 49 that is
    31:47
    something that the jcbi has already said
    31:50
    that they are considering and i await
    31:51
    their advice
    31:54
    thank you i thank the secretary of state
    31:55
    for having come directly to the house
    31:58
    this morning order
    32:02
    order
    32:03
    ah we return now
    32:05
    to the down syndrome bill
    32:08
    and as i just hesitate for a moment to
    32:11
    allow people to leave the chamber
    32:14
    tom randall
    32:17
    thank you madam deputy speaker
    32:20
    and
    32:21
    like many others i rise to speak in
    32:23
    support of this bill and i’d like to add
    32:26
    my congratulations as they’ve been from
    32:28
    across the house to the right honourable
    32:30
    member for for north somerset on
    32:32
    bringing this bill uh to the house and
    32:35
    uh for his passionate speech um in in
    32:38
    favor of the measures um that are
    32:41
    contained uh within it um down syndrome
    32:44
    um is a visible condition and the name
    32:46
    will be uh familiar to very many people
    32:49
    but um
    32:51
    i think what um his speech did this
    32:53
    morning was to actually raise so much
    32:56
    awareness of a condition which
    32:58
    so many factors of which we

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